And it is noteworthy that the rule of two does not give Maul an advantage, for two reasons. Now, in the case of Bane and Maul, Bane is the clear winner. Darth Bane vs Darth Malgus. Bane rose to his feet in the center of the carnage. Maybe too much for you to ever bear.". darth malgus vs darth bane. I don't like how he makes note of so many Force techniques and so forth but hasn't even demonstrated them in the slightest. And my recollection of Bane's whole campaign there was absent a few important details, such as the fact that Lehon was a potent Force nexus that affected Bane immediately upon arrival there. The fact that Zannah has no recorded instances of using Force Drain, let alone a protection against it, leaves no logical precedent to suggest she was immune to it. Then we need to consider what a growth in 'power' actually means. TCW Maul is more vocal in battle situations, where TPM Maul actively resented the idea of "wasting time" with words. LOL. We'll discuss that in more detail in a little while. @silver2467: LOL this site's replying/quoting is just failing me now :(. Up above, someone triggered the alarm, and a deafening klaxon began to blare. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. And again, the irregularity issue. And whatever Force power he may send Maul's way is not guaranteed to have much lasting effect. The heavy slab flew across the room and struck the far wall with a heavy thud. Bane's normal method of combat is to barrage his enemies with his aggressive lightsaber form, his physical strength, TK, and Lightning. Its not absolutely certain, but I don't think it would be likely for him to know such Force powers and lack the ability to use them. EDIT: I withdraw this point completely. If TPM Maul was to win, then TCW should win, most likely. Zannah was thrown back ten, Bane was just thrown to the floor since he was directly in front of wall. If that's the case, kindly let me know but don't go on a rampage on me. True, but the reverse has also occurred. His opponent tried to protect himself, throwing up a field to deflect the incoming assault, but Bane’s attack tore through the pitiful defense, wiping it away as if it hadn’t even been there. So far, the reasons for Bane winning are either too vague or just inaccurate. As CB said, all Bane's entry on dark side powers denotes is knowledge, not feats. Zannah fell into a full retreat, desperately giving ground beneath the overwhelming assault. Nov 27, 2017 - Explore Redz's board "Darth Bane", followed by 366 people on Pinterest. For the second, I wasn't really trying to say Bane would instantly beat Maul through one Force power, but if Maul is going to be reckless enough to swing in the cocoons (if Bane times them right, there won't even need to be the element of recklessness) then he will keep putting distance which could potentially lead to his demise if he keeps getting hit by Force attacks. Bane had the orbalisks at the time; the orbalisks tremendously amplify his powers. Eyes and tongues shriveled, turning them into mummified husks before their desiccated flesh crumbled away, leaving only skeletal remains and a few strands of hair. It was as if the jungle feared to creep forward and reclaim the tainted stone. Bane mastered all seven lightsaber forms, and would then focus mainly upon Djem So because of his physical stature and strength. I think I can say rather dogmatically that Death Field will not find its way into a duel with Maul. While still young, Veradun killed a Twi'lek servant on his father's estate, revealing the dark will behind his sensitivity to the Force. Some of the information merely confirmed what he already knew: once attached to a host the orbalisks could not be removed. Aren't Moderators supposed to know that stuff? Release me. Bane is more adept in Physical Combat. They imply knowledge, but not necessarily the level of competence at application. To one-up Bane, Maul routinely performs practices which find him throwing ten thousand blows, a practice he repeats one hundred times each day, while still finding time for sleep, meditation, other exercises, and so on. Maul practices Juyo, and he is bloodlusted. Darth Bane vs Darth Malgus. Force-wise, Bane wins a pretty big majority of the time, although by no means is it a landslide victory. I don't even like maul but what you said was pretty dope. The Empire is war made manifest. For the drain one, could you please quote it exactly, from the book? "How do you get them off?" As Bane is not stipulated to wear the orbalisk armor in the OP, none of these showings can be considered valid in this situation either. You just have to determine a standard for a time period based on the average. Lightsaber combat leans heavily in Maul's favor; Force power leans somewhat in Bane's. Share. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. "This armor is permanent.". You could probably compare his rain deflection feat to Maul's thousand-blows in rapid succession, but Bane hasn't really done anything like get stranded for a month with only assassin droids for company only for the sake of training. He only did so with the orbalisks; I feel it prudent to point out that in the same fight where he burned a drexl to ash with Lightning, Bane also withstood a fall from a thousand meters (IIRC) that left a monumental crater in the ground and walked away unharmed... Like I said, the orbalisks amplify his powers tremendously. But, due to my argument above, I believe the extent of growth, from one generation to the next, is grossly overestimated on these forums. I don't debate to "win." Bane didn't take the time to revel in the fear of his fallen enemies. In all seriousness though, if we can't meet more common ground soon, then we can agree to disagree. When Bane was elucidating to Zannah a few of the divisions in technique with the dark side, he described those with "raw elemental power." Bane has a rather considerable edge in the force and a small one in sabers. "That has always been the problem," Bane replied. That is a completely unquantifiable claim. If it's successful, it would tip the scales. Basically, you're arguing all this time for Bane's cocoon technique only amounts to a single chance on his part to make it useful. Sorry to hear about your posting troubles though. Blade_of_Dorin. As a child, Veradun tended to the creature… I would consider Bane more powerful, by objective feat contrast, but typically, Bane's showings are evaluated with no regard to their contextual surroundings, as almost all of his best showings were done in accordance with some outside source of power not available in this thread. 3. As a child, Veradun tended to the creatures in the menagerie, feeding the animals and cleaning their cages. So the comparison is a bit loose. We literally see this with all three modern day instances, Plagueis killed Tenebrous with a sneak attack, Sidious killed Plagueis with a sneak attack, Vader killed Sidious in a sneak attack. He shields himself from half a dozen concussion grenades. And is this CW Maul? @dccomicsrule2011: Nice to see you too, DC. Additionally, Bane has equal or better Speed and Force feats than Maul, and in terms of skill, I consider his performance against Tas’im slightly better than losing to an elderly Jinn and vastly pre-prime Kenobi. I did say Bane's rain deflection feat was comparable, especially if he did it on a regular basis, but it's just that he has never actually starved himself for a month and fought off assassin droids all the while for the sake of training. I would add much more but I'm kinda lazy right now. As it was, he simply let the corpse fall to the ground then wandered into Kaan’s tent and the communications equipment inside. Yeah, my bad, this is Maul as he was a year and 1 month ago. Even assuming that Bane does possess all of the powers he listed in BoS (which I am still unconvinced of), Bane has limits, which he himself has admitted to before. Fair enough. In my opinion, that would be where Bane usually excels. That point clear, Bane's Lightning left its targets in ashes and charred husks, in a fight where Bane also survives an impact from hundreds of meters with injuries that recovered within moments (and in fairness again, he was not totally unharmed, as I said before; so correction on my part there too). Tents were uprooted from the ground, their material torn and shredded. , such as convection, drain and cryokinesis could very well be abilities he actually can put into practice, in fact its quite likely that is the case. It's kinda silly to me if you boast about such things being possible and you lack the power to do that yourself. See more ideas about darth bane, bane, star wars sith. Re: Darth Bane vs Darth Malak vs Darth Vader vs Darth Malgus Jump to: Select a forum | |--Rules and Announcements |--Star Wars Versus | |--Ongoing Suspect Showdowns (SS) | |--Finished Suspect Showdowns (SS) | |--Star Wars Blogs |--Star Wars Legends Discussion |--Star Wars Canon Discussion |--Nexus of Thought |--General Discussion I could probably be more lenient and give Maul the edge as far as physical lightsaber combat goes, but it probably wouldn't be enough to give Maul the victory. There was something fighting his power, resisting him. General Airen Cracken Rebel and New Republic intelligence officer. Do you Palpatine killed him? Problem is, resorting to that power initially is not Luke's ordinary mentality toward opponents. One of the reasons I find it dubious that Bane has mastered all of the techniques he listed is because among them were listed telepathic powers, which Bane said he had a limited affinity for. Not like Bane who was forced to adapt and guard himself from every angle and direction, because he lacked that level of protection. There are some who can employ Drain in combat, but apparently, Bane's usage of it was not so fruitful in that arena. It was meant to be able to create enough distance for recovery, or for Bane to focus on using another Force power, if he manages to make the time. @silver2467: You've convinced me Maul could take him. JXM, for instance, I know could outline reasons for Bane winning if he really wanted to. Feeling an incredible surge of power beyond any he had known before, he released it in a burst of energy. I know you aren't trying to be disrespectful.. which is great. And this is why the comparison doesn't make sense. However, in Bane's unarmed fight with Zannah, even when Bane succeeded in distancing himself from Zannah, he never defeated her through a Force attack; he fled. Okay. LOL. Its surface was smooth, and it extended only a few centimeters out from the passage, making it impossible to get a firm grip. "Your wisdom has destroyed our order," Bane explained casually, watching as Qordis struggled helplessly above him. 2.Mauls training came from Sidious while he himself was just an apprentice, and Maul was built as a Sith Assassin rather than a true apprentice until the later stages of his training under Sidious. @silver2467: Lol, damn. These forums could use someone like you as a mod. If he could do that while she moves in to deliver a killing stroke, I doubt there would be much difference in speed of operation between that power and Lightning or TK. Bane being more powerful is nice and all, but that hardly guarantees a victory. The spark quickly became a flame, and the flame an inferno. If there was no wall, maybe it would have been twenty? A spray of hot, foamy blood splashed across Bane's face as the creatures ripped one another apart. @thebluedragon20: in that case, maul wins. It would only be fair since I've spent so much time discrediting his other accomplishments. im just giving you props for the info.. But you could argue CW Maul as an additional hypothetical if you wished. The reason Bane could toss around Force attacks against Zannah while he was unarmed is precisely for that reason: he was unarmed. Not to mention, Zannah sharpened her powers with the dark side energies permeating Ambria anyway. "Creatures that feed on the power of the dark side. ", Dawning horror spread across Qordis’s long, drawn features. Bane had tried the Force next, probing deep inside to better understand what was happening to him. The Sith must be destroyed and rebuilt. 4. Or a younger Revan holding his own and defeating multiple jedi knights at a time when most jedi have slightly below average feats is not as impressive as Dooku dueling multiple jedi that have above average feats. The front ranks of onrushing cultists shrieked in agony as they entered the field, their life essence violently sucked out of their bodies, aging them a thousand years in only a few seconds. The four guards up here had been alerted by the blaster shots being fired down below; unlike the first wave they weren't caught off guard by his violent entrance. See more ideas about darth bane, bane, dark lord of the sith. Their fury might be fueled by the dark side energies emanating from the temple, but Bane could just as easily draw upon the same power, letting it build until he unleashed it against his foes. Aren't Maul's physicals and Force abilities close enough to Bane's so that Maul can indeed rely on his superior skill to gain victory? If it's permissible for you to speculate on Bane drawing on powers during the duel that he has never even demonstrated before based on BoS, it should then be permissible for me to speculate on the parameters of Maul's telekinetic raw power based on the ease with which he achieved his TK feats and his potential power. The incoming bolts were absorbed harmlessly into the ionic storm, the blasters themselves melted in the hands of their owners. About Palpatine's comment, I'm gonna actually assume that its quite possible, and that he could actually do that. Also, are you gonna post up your list of Bane's feats? Level One. Ulic Qel-Droma and Dooku could both resist Drain, but neither one ever exhibited Force Drain. To give a more definite estimate of Maul's rapidity of motion, he can unleash five blows in the flicker of an eye. So far, I still don't really see why everyone is so predisposed to favoring Bane, but nonetheless, I appreciate the more thoughtful answers. Well, if I'm nitpicking, Bane actually said that Drain is nearly impossible to apply in a duel, but I digress with that point, seeing as I have already addressed the fact that Bane's only feat with Drain required him sustaining his powers with outside support. @mysterymeat: If you can’t scale them to each other due to them being from different eras, then you have to look at their feats and compare them that way. Veradun was a Force-sensitive Human male born in the year 3701 BBY on the planet Dromund Kaas, the capital of the reconstituted Sith Empire. Palpatine trains him, but keeps much of the deeper secrets of the darkside from Maul's knowledge. Zannah against Bane, for example, which is also in the Bane Trilogy..... @comicstooge: Physicalities, I could agree. It sounded like the moan of a long-dead god rising from the grave; a hundred mechanized limbs sprang to action with an angry hum as the monsters swarmed over him. He met their assault with an explosion of crackling energy that rippled out in a violet wave from his body at the center. Granted you have stated before that Bane has never used his powers while crossing simultaneously, but it's possible for Bane to retreat if (more like when) Maul get's the upper-hand in the duel to then rely on his Force abilities. It was just to throw him back, and allow for potential telekinetics/Drain to come into effect. Or will Malgus' force abilities and lightsaber cut the Red Lantern down to size? I posted the full showing before, and Bane made himself a conduit for the inherent power in Andeddu's temple simply to create his Death Field. In the very center stood the Rakatan Temple. As they dropped from the sky, spiraling down faster and faster, she watched them, waiting for one to break free and mount back up to the heavens. Zannah was very close to Bane in terms of lightsaber combat anyway; the disparity in combat skill between Maul and Bane is much more immense than the skill disparity between Zannah and Bane. Force abilities, probably not. Malgus' body is black with grey battle armour printed on both the front and back. Overall Bane's deflecting a torrent of rain is a great endurance/speed feat, but Mauls feat supersedes it. It's actually not hard to compare different eras. However, Zannah is more naturally adept in Sith Sorcery, and her raw force potential is greater than Bane's. This cause them to be virtually equal overall, which is why The Huntress (then to be named Darth Cognus by Zannah) could not foresee who'd win when the two fought, because their overall abilities were so equal, it was impossible to determine. @macattack1@emmafrostxmen@void_reborn, @lord_tenebrous, @theoverdaddy, @thebluedragon20. He shook his head to clear it. :P. Battle forum rules are not retroactive. 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