The salt of winter, the humidity of summer and a fair amount of neglect in between can do a number on your truck’s frame, axles and suspension. Copyright © 2005-2019 BikePortland.org - Daily bike news since 2005. From a regional standpoint, this photo represents something truck owners in the northeast and Midwest know all too well. I’ve not heard alcohol recommended for removing rust. easy really. Its nearly impossible to keep the frame clean in the winter. None of these accounts are visible, but hundreds of thousands of them have been created and they are taxing our servers. You can snag this stuff at Wally World for roughly $6 to $8 per 8-ounce container, and it’s also available in 10.25-ounce spray cans (note that you’ll likely need five or six bottles per coat in order to treat a crew cab truck). Continue on to the site and look for links to the latest articles, as soon as they are released. Anything you can do to get the salt off is better than doing nothing—even if it’s only temporary. I would agree that Winnebago has a serious problem with rust around the windshield. Sure, it will never be completely eradicated, but we’ve finally got the problem under control. The sand from the beach or where ever will stick to the undercoating like flies on fly paper. bikes WITH small racks on them in the late 1930s. It’s more for total tear-down restorations than for spot touch-ups. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2041863/Boeing-787-Dreamliner-reality-carbon-fibre-plane-delivered-Japan.html, ‘Cross Up’ indoor cyclocross event coming to The Lumberyard, City kicks off planning process for North Portland Greenway, PBOT Commissioner: “Portland witnessed a terrible tragedy”, Police say two of 10 victims in vehicular rampage were on bikes. My rainbike cruiser is an aluminum frame singlespeed, and my icebike is a cr-mo framed chrome plated old school atb converted to singlespeed. When it’s left exposed to these two, it tends to develop a flaky, red-brown coat. August 4, 2016; Story By Mike McGlothlin; The salt of winter, the humidity of summer and a fair amount of neglect in between can do a number on your truck’s frame, axles and suspension. The most commonly used rust reformer in the pickup industry is a semi-gloss black product made by POR-15. I'm not saying it was easy by any means but it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. NOTE: We love your comments and work hard to ensure they are productive, considerate, and welcoming of all perspectives. And another rust tip: If you see any sort of exterior paint bubbling, it’s likely an early sign of rust. There is no set time frame to rusting. This stuff should be applied in at least two (if not three) coats, and allowed 2-to-6 hours of dry time in between (note that the more humid it is, the quicker it will dry). My steel frame bike weighs all of 20 lbs. You can place a Metal Shop Front,a Double or a Garage Door. From the Forums: Should I worry about rust on my bike? As a former Merchant Marine and a cyclist living on the coast rust has always been a big issue. We know this coat as rust, but its full chemical formula is iron(III) oxide, or Fe²O³.. You’ll need a grinder with wire wheel, wire brush, 5-in-1 scraper, painter’s tape, masking paper, rubber gloves, and some sort of paint gun or empty spray container. …” Pat Franz. It helps not having as many cables and stuff exposed to wet and salt. However, IMO there is a design flaw in how they install windshields in many of their coaches. Anyway I was able to do all this by myself and I'm a novice for sure. We used Rust Mort during our first treatment and we’re convinced it’s one of the best products on the market. http://www.yellowjersey.org/r33.html take that, carbonman!! Its the holes in the frame that get us in the rust belt. Opinion: Vehicular violence hits home again. Photo Requests, Portland's cautious approach to AVs should prevent what just happened in Tempe, Subscriber opinion: Governor Brown should lose ODOT leadership to win reelection, Mark your calendars for candidate forums on climate and transportation, "Be reasonable" and other advice aspiring activists should ignore. Advantage of NJ, is that it’s in a gel, making it easier to apply to surfaces that aren’t horizontal. Dry them then lube/grease them. You need to know where to look to prevent it from eating your Jeep’s frame from the inside out. I know it can degrade the rubber tires, so I keep it away from those, but is there any reason not to use it on the chain?? Just remember vehicles that live indoors always avoid becoming scrap metal longer than ones living out amongst the elements. Obviously, a lot of us can’t store our trucks for the cold months, hence one of the reasons for this article. The biggest area that is going to be susceptible to rust is your Jeep’s undercarriage. “…While rain can get directly into the frame through bosses and vent holes, there are other things that draw moisture in. Best Rust Converters for Truck Frame 1. This is how we chose to fight off the rust gremlins on our Ford F-350, and we’ve practically stopped all progression of this truck-killing cancer. Now, a quick touch up is all we have to do from time-to-time to stay ahead of it. I’m going to keep riding it, lugged steel is great. I don't think they've changed jack shit in the coatings or metal thickness in years. Depending on the condition of your frame, axles, and suspension, you could easily spend an entire 8 to 10-hour day removing rust, old paint, or undercoating). Hey everyone, first post. Yeah. The body on the ‘18 and newer is aluminum, but it too can succumb to corrosion. Speaking of rust, does anybody know where I can get a tarp-like bicycle cover (if not just a tarp)? After you’ve gone around at least once, pedal vigorously, then wipe off the excess with a rag. A bonus with Rust-Oleum’s product is that it is odorless. While rain can get directly into the frame through bosses and vent holes, there are other things that draw moisture in. If you’re using an oil-based paint for a topcoat, a 4-hour wait period should be observed (but three days if using lacquer or aerosol paint). It’s been a while since we mentioned the Portland Bike Forums (We’ve got forums? Alcohol isn’t going to help (your chain). Once you’ve cleaned up the frame, axles, and suspension to the best of your ability, pressure wash everything and allow it to dry. extracycle makes one for longtails, but i would imagine it would work with any bike(s). (Definitely not for chains!). “Death from within” is the big rust problem with bikes. After using it, practically all progression of the rust on our truck came to a standstill. Head on over see what people are talking about on the Portland Bike Forums. I was given a Park Tools chain cleaner for Christmas, and it makes cleaning the chain so much easier than either removing it, or painstakingly scrubbing and cleaning it by hand. Drenching the chain in alcohol will displace the oil and soak oil/alcohol/water emulsion into the important link-pin bearings, so don’t do that. I would be surprised to find most bikes are aluminum and not steel. Wiping the chain with a rag dampened in alcohol won’t hurt anything but all it’s doing is wiping off the superficial rust. Here's how you can help: Subscribe to our emails Get headlines, Monday Roundup links, Weekend Event Guide, and job listings delivered to your inbox. The sooner you do it, the sooner you will stop the rust from spreading further. Thanks — Jonathan Maus]. They were made with strong but thin steel, and the old paints are not so durable. Being you live in Tx if you arent close to the gulf you probably have nothing to worry about. Turtle Wax is a good preventive measure, but it will do nothing after rust starts. Was wondering what people use /have done to prevent rust on there frame . Wax will repel water while making your frame sparkle in the rain. In total I replaced the drivers frame rail, drivers shock tower, torsion bar crossmember, and both inner fenders for about $1000 in parts. But it will take years of exposure to the weather, even then. Recognizing that every individual's motoring journey is unique, we seek to give form to both untold as well as celebrated facets of the automotive world. I just hate rust as I think we all do, and here in the great Winter rust belt (PA) it's hard to avoid. Whether you’re using a gravity feed paint gun, a Hudson sprayer, or a repurposed tire shine spray bottle, the bottom line is to apply your rust reformer in every exposed area to get the same result: seal the rust and prevent the spread of it. What Is Rust? All rust is bad. Posted by Will Vanlue (Contributor) on January 19th, 2012 at 10:30 am, [Note from publisher: Before Will shares a post from the Portland Bike Forums, I need to address a few things: Our server expert and I are currently working on issues with the forums related to spam user accounts. As you can see in reading through the comments, by observing some basic precautionary measures, steel can hold up very well. BikePortland.org is a production of: PedalTown Media Inc. PO Box 11161 Portland, OR 97211Original images and content owned by Pedaltown Media, Inc. Not to be used without permission. Just like auto body work, most of the effort is built into the prep process. As for topcoat, we prefer a gloss black finish. I have owned two Winne's and overall, I think they make a solid coach for the money. There are some people that worry about structural integrity of the frame after drilling holes, but it's a boxed frame, making it very strong. This should be a key indicator to check under the car before you sign the papers. I’m about to buy a 2017 F-150 xlt crew cab fx4. It’s not just hours in the rain, things like temperature cycling can do damage too. Old electrowelded Schwinns are particularly sturdy, and even many cheap cruisers are very thick steel. 108,000 on it and with the love it/hate it Pro-Tec composite box on it I really only have to worry about rust on the cab forward. Frame Rust problem 26 Failure Date: 01/11/2019 Portland Personal Injury Lawyer, If the rust is causing bubbling under the paint, take good look at the rest of the frame for more rust spots, Surface rust can be removed with a fine abrasive, cleaned thoroughly, then touched up with paint and a clear coat, If you keep your bike outside year round, you may wat to look into anti-rust coatings for the. Disagreements are encouraged, but only if done with tact and respect. This stuff will take your breath away, so definitely wear some sort of ventilator or mask if you go this route. Paint brushes get the call as well, to help evenly distribute the thicker areas of the rust reformer (once it’s applied). rust is not the only issue. The vast overwhelming majority use aluminum, just as the vast overwhelming majority of aircraft makers used aluminum, and are now starting to shift to carbon fiber. The factory has to do this as the frame is assembled, of course Nissan could use better, more rust resistant steel in their frame, might add $100.00 to the price. Frame rust outs were pretty common with Toyota full frame vehicles, but I haven’t heard the same with Fords/Chevy’s. Do you have questions about your bike? Many “cheap” bikes actually have very thick steel tubes, so surface rust is even less likely to be a problem. Those in doubt go look at a 20 year old sliding screen door frame on any house, bottom channel is always corroded away. A chain cleaning tool makes it much easier. DED Project Revived for Flatfender Frame & Rust Repair Rust Repair on a 1984 Chevy S-10 Blazer Tailgate Party: ... allowing us to worry less about our frame … If outside and inside (what you can see) is solid, you can worry about dropping the skid to clean up any rust that might be sitting between the frame and skid when you have it in your driveway. Unlike POR-15 reformer, it doesn’t have to be painted over after being applied, but Rust-Oleum does recommend applying a second coat if you don’t plan to apply paint. Some people have the mistaken perception that washing a car regularly is not a good idea because it can cause damage to… Before I bought it, I had a mechanic perform a pre purchase inspection. I repainted my bianchi after a frame repair, I bought it second hand in 1994 I don’t know what year it was new. Independent community journalism is vital and it needs your help to survive. Super for them! Grit in the link-pin bearing area is what makes you work harder and wears out the chain faster. Even if it’s powder-coated on the … Made by SEM, Rust Mort uses phosphoric acid to convert existing rust into phosphate (a hard, black surface ready for painting). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLcZKGwS3zE. Other forum users had some good advice for how to handle Scott’s issue: Check the entire thread for yourself for more tips and info; and remember, rust can spread quickly and sometimes it can get into areas you can’t see just by looking at your bike. Iron and its related alloys react to oxygen and water in a specific way. Dont worry about rust. I’m starting to see spots of rust on the head tube, right where the paint has been worn away by the shift cable housing. Got a 2017 and showing surface rust . Aluminum foil and masking tape works great for this. Some old high-quality steel bikes, with painted finishes, are in theory at higher risk of frame failure from rust. If you find a lot of rust then you should remove the fuel tank for a more through inspection of that area too. Like the “fire triangle” rust requires fuel(steel), moisture, and oxygen. If your chain is so rusty that it is hard to move or bend, you need a new chain. wet. Of all the rust failures I’ve seen, all but one or two were from the inside, and it’s hard to tell until it’s too late. ... have to worry about it any more. If paint is rusting take it down to bare metal, epoxy primer it, repaint it, but the rust still might come back. Rust is a form of combustion just like fire and can be dealt with in a similar fashion. Using por 15 or rust bullet. I haven’t used one, but I’d be thinking about covers impeding air circulation, subjecting the bike to excessive humidity. Its kind of messy but probably worth it. Yep: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2041863/Boeing-787-Dreamliner-reality-carbon-fibre-plane-delivered-Japan.html. He said he wouldn't worry too much about it and he told me he would love to buy this truck. If it’s a cheaper bike, you probably want to be more careful about cleaning up the rust. This can be a shock to the system at first, but don’t worry, your rusty TJ Jeep Frame is … One small area of exposed steel can be a starting point for oxidation and once rust starts it can be tough to stop. How much should I worry about frame rust? A little backstory: I just bought this 2002 tundra with 115k miles and absolutely no body rust. if you are going to store your bike outdoors, you should be prepared to relube moving parts and overhaul bearing surfaces a lot more frequently. Post Reply. I have used it on an older car. Rust Busting: How to Revive a Corroded Frame. I don’t notice any rust yet! I’d put the thinking cap on and maybe figure out some rube goldberg trolley-dumbwaiter contraption to help get the bike in and out of the basement more easily. I live in California but I’m far away from the beach to not have to worry about rust. Bikes with steel frames will rust when they’re left out in the rain and snow. It is a greasy mess. 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